dr. axe: hey, guys. dr. josh axe here with jordan rubin. welcome to ancient nutrition today. we’ve got a great topic today. we’re going to be talking about how to reducechronic pain. jordan, in someone’s lifetime, i was reading,over 80% of people at some point will struggle with chronic low back pain, and a number ofpeople that at some are going to struggle with pain in their life. it’s pretty much everybody multiple times.
so we know we’ve got some natural ways todaywe’re going to be talking about how to reduce chronic pain and inflammation. so if you’re a person watching today or knowssomebody with arthritis, fibromyalgia, any type of muscle pain, maybe you tore an aclor a shoulder in the past, or have muscle spasms, or any type of pain, even neck pain,back pain, and headaches, we’re going to talk about how to overcome those conditions today. also, hey, help us spread this message rightnow, teaching people how to use food as medicine, take a second and punch your share button,click your love button, help us spread this word now.
so jordan, a lot of people experience chronicpain. what are some of the things that people turnto instead of these natural approaches as a starter? jordan: well, it’s pretty interesting thatthe narcotic pain killers, we’ll start there because these are sort of the highest class. we’re looking at serious issues, one beingaddiction. so we’ve seen a lot of athletes that we’refans of be addicted to pain killers, right? and you also, of course, see people that youand love that are in that situation. so that’s number one.
number two, there is now, i don’t know ifyou’ve seen the commercial, but there are commercials for a new medication to combatopioid-induced constipation, oic. so you’ve got an issue with addiction to thesepain killers and you’ve got serious side effects that now there’s a medication for the medicationfor the medication-medication. anyway, so that’s just the narcotic opioidpain killers. then you’ve got cox-2 inhibitors. we know that vioxx and celebrex, super, superpopular. i know that many athletes today are on thosefor years and then certainly, some of us in the civilian population.
and not just in nsaids. people are using aspirin, ibuprofen, etc,day after day after day. and i’m not suggesting that there’s nevera time for pain killers, there’s never a time for medications. but what if there were natural methods thatdidn’t cause constipation but actually helped your gut? what if there were natural methods that didn’tcause toxicity but actually helped you detoxify? we call that a twofer. so everything we’re going to talk about todayto combat your chronic pain, migraines, tendonitis,
knee pain, back pain as you mentioned is absolutelyendemic in america, and the list goes on and on, psoriatic arthritis, pain from fibromyalgia,pain from various traumas. we’re going to go after it today. it’s going to be fast-moving. there are about 14 great recommendations. so get out your smartphone, make sure to getthis link, and share this video, because we believe that this can help 95% of the peopleout there. because i don’t know anyone who hasn’t beenin pain. dr. axe: absolutely.
so we’re going to jump in and talk about thetop vitamin, supplements, herbs, essential oils, and foods, and natural treatments toovercome chronic pain today. i want to reiterate something jordan said,that i remember years ago reading some studies on vioxx and also seeing how many people diefrom taking that drug. it was staggering and causing heart failure. if you look at today, people taking the typicalnsaids, it’s actually the 15th leading killer in america and actually has been shown tocause intestinal bleeding of the gi track. so again, these medications have side effects. good news is we’re going over all naturalapproaches today.
so jordan, number one, we talk about it allthe time, talk to us about all the benefits of turmeric, and up here you have the extractin the oil. what is the difference between the two? jordan: well, turmeric has many great compounds,and we’ve talked about this recently. curcumin or curcuminoids are powerful antioxidantsand pain reducers, but they also have turmerones, which are powerful for the brain and we believe,many other areas. so turmeric extract, which is high in curcumin,and turmeric oil, either a co2 or an essential oil, has the ultimate complement. you can use turmeric in a tea, in a decoction.
people are using it now topically. it’s absolutely amazing for the brain, forthe gut, for the immune system. but if you’re in pain, or better yet, if you’reaging and you want to avoid it, i recommend consuming turmeric extract every day and turmericoil. and it’s great for . . . i know people thathave cancer are using as much as 8,000 milligrams of turmeric extract. recently, i’ve been consuming turmeric co2or essential oil and i’m doing 30 drops a day. and so, that is about 1,800 milligrams andi’m loving it.
sorry. dr. axe: i love it, too. well, actually, i started doing the same thing,doing the co2 oil of turmeric every single day, jordan. i’ve actually noticed just more smoothnessin my joints, overall feeling better. so again, turmeric extract and the co2 oil,very, very powerful at naturally reducing inflammation. curcumin, turmerone, as jordan’s talking about,fantastic. i want to give a shout-out to some of ourviewers who are watching right now.
we’ve got so many of you watching from allover the world currently and i want to give you a shout-out. so we’ve got linda young watching from oregon. hey, linda, thanks for joining us here today. marie trammell, watching from jackson, tennessee. candy braser watching from killeen texas. thanks for joining me today. barbara wolfe, actually has a comment here. she said, "they gave me pain killers likecandy, horrible.
my dentist also gave me oxycontin for dentalsurgery and never took it," is her comment here as well. we actually have beatrice watching from nairobi,kenya. hey, beatrice, thanks for watching here today. we’re getting a lot of comments and questionshere, jordan, about different things that we’re covering from. patricia says, she’s in brooklyn, new yorkright now, and she’s recovering from an acl sprain in her knee as well. so we’ll give you some great tips on thingsyou can do.
as we’re talking about, millions of peopleright now are struggling with chronic, and they don’t know the natural treatments. they don’t know that they can use food asmedicine. so hey, be on mission with us. help us spread the word right now. take a second and punch your share button,helping spread the message on how to use these natural remedies to reduce chronic pains. so i’m going to talk about frankincense here. we love this combination, boswellia.
if you look at the extract or frankincense,which its name is typically name as boswellia in latin, is the extract and it is calledboswellia. so again, you can take it in a powder formas a supplement, really, really strong anti-inflammatory benefits. in fact, there are, you know, different companiesthat will sometimes combine turmeric and frankincense together. the oil is also very powerful. so frankincense contains a lot of what’s calledboswellic acid, the oil contains higher compounds of things like alpha-pinene, which are alsoreally, really, strongly anti-inflammatory.
another thing, jordan, i was reading onlineabout the exact compound found in frankincense is pinene, it’s actually the compound thatthey put when people are having, it’s actually synthetically made as a medication for peoplewho are struggling with chronic anxiety. and a lot of times, some of the medicationsthey give for people that are mood-related for chronic pain, actually, it’s what’s infrankincense. so frankincense oil has some really incrediblecompounds. the way i’d suggest you use it is you cando a few drops internally, you can also simply just rub it on an area of concern. i recommend mixing that with other essentialoils, warming and cooling oil.
but again, turmeric and frankincense, twoof the most powerful herbs or supplements you can take or oils in terms of reducingchronic pain. jordan, holy basil, i know this is one ofyour favorites might as well. talk about how holy basil can really supportthe body in reducing pain. jordan: all of these herbs and spices arehigh in antioxidants which helps the cells protect themselves and really reduce inflammation. holy basil is great for the mood, it’s greatfor the brain, and it has anti-inflammatory effects, similar to a natural cox-2 inhibitor. so again, we want to use holy basil herb,we want to use holy basil oil.
these are rare. holy basil oil and turmeric oil aren’t verycommonly found but they’re both amazing. they’re floral, they’re wonderful. take it orally, helps your mood, helps reallyyour entire body. one thing that i want to talk about, depressionand anxiety, is painful. now it doesn’t affect prostaglandins or eicosanoidsor sort of the hormones involved in pain, but it’s serious pain. so holy basil can lighten your mood and brightenyour day by transforming your health. so really, really important.
i recommend using a holy basil extract, makinga tea or an infusion out of it, taking holy basil oil, and we’re working on all kindsof ways to help you with content, information, education, and products to get these intoyour life. but make sure to do this. in india and around the world, people consumethese botanicals each and every day to maintain a pain-free life. dr. axe: yeah, great advice here. holy basil, incredible as an adaptogen. next one here is chili pepper, and rememberchili peppers there really increase circulation.
if you’re a person as well that has cold extremities,maybe your hands get cold and your feet get cold, and you’re having heart issues and justdon’t have good circulation, chili peppers, whether it’s cayenne or ghost pepper, allof these have tremendous benefits at really improving circulation and reducing chronicpain. in fact, capsaicin, one of those compoundsthat’s found in cayenne pepper specifically, is a great natural pain reliever. jordan, i love actually combining chili pepperwith things like turmeric as well. there’s a study, jordan, i both referenced,where turmeric was taken with a compound, or curcumin taken with piperine, which isone of the main compounds found in black pepper,
actually, help bio-availability, helped toget better throughout the body. but chili peppers and capsaicin are goingto work in a very similar manner. they’re going to open up the capillaries that’sgoing to allow these other anti-inflammatory compounds get throughout the body. so remember this, when you’re taking turmericsupplement, oftentimes it’s also beneficial to take a chili supplement with it or somesort of supplement that has hot peppers in it. jordan: absolutely. number five is wintergreen oil.
now, wintergreen is a powerful topical analgesic. and analgesic is a pain killer. in fact, wintergreen has very strong medicinalproperties. so if you are making a rub or if you wantto overcome joint issues, muscle issues, wintergreen is amazing. inhaling it is really good too because througholfaction, you can begin to lessen pain. what’s interesting about pain is a lot oftimes, there’s an emotional component to it, and you can actually work through or overcomepain. that’s how people walk on hot coals and doall these punch bricks, etc.
i mean, you really can do that. and essential oils help to energize the mindand make you more resilient to pain. we know that in the fighting arena, muay thaifighters, they do just wild things, put their hands in glass and all of that. that all helps to really deaden your nerveendings and sense of pain. but wintergreen is great topically as an analgesicand can help relieve pain, often in minutes. and by the way, we’d love to hear from youright now. if you have an essential oil that you’ve everused and you saw results with it, specifically for any type of chronic pain, maybe there’san essential oil you use for muscle aches,
maybe for headaches, we’d love to hear thesingle or maybe the combination of essential oils you use that have helped you relievesome sort of chronic pain, discomfort, maybe a burn, but any type of sort of pain or inflammatoryissue you have. we’d love to hear from you here as well. all right, sandra here actually says, sheloves rubbing on a mixture, or actually she loves using wintergreen. she uses that regularly for chronic pain. alicia sakey says she uses ginger oil forchronic pain. we know ginger contains gingerols and zingiberene,some great things.
tuce giblins says she loves to use a mixtureof lavender and peppermint together. we know that’s actually a great combinationfor getting rid of headaches there as well. great advice guys. all right, so rosemary oil, this is anotheroil we love. jordan, i know this because i’m with him allthe time and sometimes he comes in smelling like oils. i’m sure i do as well. but he loves anointing his head with differentoils, specifically one of his favorites is rosemary.
and is that where you get your thick hair? dr. axe: all right. so rosemary oil, we know it’s great for naturallythickening the hair, but also medical studies have shown it helps reduce inflammation aswell as cortisol levels. now, one of the things jordan mentioned earlier,jordan, i actually just talked to a friend of mine who’s a doctor in colorado, and hesaid that he just read a book on neuroplasticity and really how the mind affects so much ofthe pain we experience. and so, he was talking about using essentialoils. he started using rosemary and frankincenseand helichrysum, smelling them, actually he
went in for a surgery he had, and he said,he’d had this surgery once before and he said his pain this time was like 75% less. he really believed it was because of someof the things that he was doing naturally. really, he supported, he felt like it washis mindset in helping overcome chronic pain. we know rosemary oil works both on the brainas well as on your body at a cellular level at reducing chronic inflammation. so again, it’s great to mix theses oils. we’ve mentioned this before, mixing wintergreenoil with another essential oil, rosemary and some others, rubbing it directly on an area,you can mix it with some coconut oil, but
we know these essential oils are powerful. jordan, number seven here, i know what webelieve is the number one super food everybody should be getting. and i know i had bone broth powder proteinthis morning for breakfast, two scoops of talk to us about how bone broth specificallycan help relieve chronic discomfort in the body. jordan: bone broth has many anti-inflammatorycomponents. we’re talking about collagen, chondroitin,glucosamine. those are proteoglycans.
they actually are polysaccharide-based compoundsthat help mediate pain really, really amazingly well. we know glycine and proline are powerful aminoacids, even minerals such as potassium and the glycosaminoglycan, i know i’m saying alot of long words, hyaluronic acid is powerful for pain and inflammation. when you consume bone broth, when you makeit yourself, and we have recipes here at draxe.com, when you buy bone broth frozen or packaged,when you take a bone broth powder, you’re having an anti-inflammatory effect. and i believe people begin to feel it in aboutfour days.
you need to do a few cups a day equivalent. but in a few days, you’ll begin to feel itand it has a crescendo effect. that means every day you get better and better. and i’ve said this many times, i just i reallygot into bone broth more heavily than ever when i had a knee injury, and it was a seriousone. i was on crutches, i didn’t walk for two anda half months with a knee condition and i was able to implement a radical bone brothprotocol. i was doing between 24 and 48 ounces a dayof bone broth and then i was doing bone broth powder, doing them both, and i’ve gotten betterand better.
and now, i’m able to have a subpar performanceon the basketball court occasionally. literally though, i’m over 40 and i play full-courtbasketball five days in a row a couple weeks ago. and from someone who couldn’t walk, that’sa pretty big deal. so i’m seeing great results day by day, thisis really the backbone of anti-inflammatory chronic pain program. i’ve heard people say, "when i’m consumingbone broth, i’m good." but when they stop and don’t get those nutrientsand beneficial compounds, they begin to hurt. bone broth doesn’t just mitigate pain, ithelps to rebuild things, which is pretty cool.
dr. axe: yeah, absolutely awesome. we have a question here, a great questionhere from anna, i’m sorry, from crimi, and she said, "what should we specifically takefor rheumatoid arthritis?" well, crimi, i just want to say what jordanrecommended here, bone broth, and you’ve got rheumatoid arthritis, bone broth should bea basis of your diet. i would get some great bone broth powder protein,do that every morning in a smoothie, i would do bone broth soup throughout the day. so make bone broth a cornerstone. also, the turmeric, something i would definitelydo.
something we don’t have on the board, buti would definitely recommend as well is an omega-3 supplement, getting a lot of omega-3every single day, and then lots of fruits and veggies. you do that, you should start to get somerelief from those ra symptoms there as well. jordan: then i will throw in this, and theseare not on the board, we usually have things to add at the end as bonuses. but in addition to bone broth and turmeric,i highly recommend not just an omega-3 but one that has high in epa. and if you have rheumatoid arthritis, there’sa great study showing 12,000 milligrams of
omega-3 a day from fish not from flax, fori want to say 12 weeks, produce great results with medication and on its own. and lastly, systemic enzyme therapy can begood, too. dr. axe: oh yeah. jordan, you mentioned proteolytic enzymessuch as bromelain and papains, some of the others we’ve talked about are fantastic. so i’m going to talk about next here, chiropracticcare. if you are struggling with chronic, especiallyjoint issues, chiropractic care can be great. in fact, there’s a study i read recently findingthat chiropractic care was five times more
effective than nsaids at actually treatinglong-term neck pains. so if somebody is having chronic neck painor low back pain or pain in the mid back, we know chiropractic care works. pain can be caused by different things, that’sa whole thing. your pain can be caused by a chemical reactionin the body. it can be caused by inflammation. it can be caused from lack of mobility ina joint. it can be caused from a muscular spasm. it can be caused from instability.
there are lots of different causes of chronicpain. and so, obviously diet is crucial and keyat reducing system-wide inflammation. but if you have a misalignment or you havelack of mobility in a joint, it’s kind of like this sewage builds up, new nutrientsaren’t getting in, and so what can happen is it can start causing issues where the jointdegenerates. that’s a great thing about chiropractic care. it helps increase motion in the joints, itcan help improve posture, realign the spine, and help the body heal naturally. by the way, if you’ve got a chiropractor thatyou love, hey let me know if you’ve ever done
chiropractic or you love chiropractic, hey,feel free to mention your chiropractor or hashtag them here on facebook live right now. now, we’re going to talk about something,actually someone just asked a question about soft tissue therapy, and i want to say bodywork and soft tissue therapy, whether it be art or graston or other types, jordan, i’msure you’ve worked with other people doing muscle work on the body. but getting that deep tissue massage or differentsort of muscular therapy can be great as well, right? and i’m going to defer to you on all the particularsof active release technique, but there’s,
we talked about rolfing, there’s the feldenkraistechnique, which is not as much with a therapist but self-directed. and these are really great. there’s even exercises, pilates is reallygood. we know yoga can be really good. and there’s something called gyrotonic thatis an immune-enhancing anti-inflammatory type of workout. so we kind of, i don’t know if you’ve seenrecently, but tom brady has really gotten out there and said that everybody is exercisingwrong for the most part and he’s extending
his career using some of these types of techniquesthat really have an eastern background. so whether it’s art or one of these others,getting body work is really, really valuable and a self-directed program of movement. one thing we’re doing, and i’m not sure ido it exactly right, but i’m doing footwork now using various foot pods or foot wakersas they’re called. because on the reflex, there are so many nerveendings on your feet. so your colon, your feet, all that. so doing something like art is great. again, i’ll defer to you on the particulars.
dr. axe: yeah, i’ve had art in the past andessentially it’s where they’re doing a muscle release, so they’re going in and doing deeptissue massage but while you’re in active motion. so what they’re doing is they’re actuallyhitting on the entire part of the muscle not just one point, but they’re actually doingit in its active range of motion, which allows you to hit more fibers. so it can be greatly beneficial. so again, a lot of body work is great. art is one that i’ve used and seen great resultswith.
so you might check that out in terms of adeep tissue body therapy. the next thing we have up here, somethingi’ve had done, as well as my wife chelsea, it’s called prp, it’s platelet rich plasma. now, this is something, you mentioned professionalathletes, peyton manning and tiger woods and a lot of nfl players get this done on a regularbasis. and this really is using your body’s own bloodto support your own tissue repair. so if you think about it, if you tear yourrotator cuff in your shoulder, your body heals so many areas. but sometimes, it can’t heal all of it andyou can be left there with a tear in your
labrum or an ac joint or some sort of ligamentoustear in your shoulder. what people are doing today is they’re goingand having their own blood drawn, they’re concentrating it down to just the platelet,which is about 6% of your blood, and your body’s platelets are where all of your growthand healing factors are in your blood. what they’re doing is they’re drawing theirblood and going to that site of an old injury, reinjecting it with these growth factors,and it’s actually able to repair and heal that damaged joint or tissue. so if you’re a person that has a past historyof a rotator cuff tear, an acl injury that’s a partial tear in your knee, even things withlike arthritis or disc injuries or any type
of chronic pain, you may consider doing somethinglike prp, it’s platelet rich plasma. and sort of another thing they oftentimesdo now, jordan, along with prp is called stem cell therapy. they actually take your body’s stem cells,which can be even more powerful than your blood at helping repair damaged tissues. if you’re looking for practitioners, someoneto help, there’s a great company i love called regenexx, it’s r-e-g-e-n-e-x-x. you can check them out. but prp is great as well.
and then jordan, dry needling. jordan: i’m going to leave that to you. these are josh’s secret therapies. but all of these would be called alternativemedicine. but the truth is, top athletes and cuttingedge research points to these as being much more safe, and soon they’re going to be integratedeverywhere. it’s amazing that athletes a lot of timeshave their own chiropractor. they have their own massage therapists. they get acupuncture, which we don’t haveon here.
i know we’re going to talk a little bit aboutthat. and the truth is, these need to be lookedat. athletes need to perform every day, they havethe resources to do it. so we’re learning a lot of how athletes keeptheir bodies to perform to use for the regular folks such as us. well, i’ll touch on this one here, jordan,and i’ll have you punch the last three here. so with dry needling, dry needling is wherethis is done by acupuncturists years ago, forms of it today, there are actually othertrainers and people that will specifically do dry needling.
essentially, it’s doing a similar thing. this is best for trigger points or one ofthe best things. if you’re a person that gets chronic triggerpoints in your neck, in your shoulders, or your muscles, dry needling, you can go withit, it just causes the muscle to release and relax. and oftentimes it increases blood flow tothe area, so it really uses your body’s own healing mechanism to heal the area. so that’s really the way dry needling works. so jordan, talk to us about infrared therapy.
i know that’s something you personally use. infrared therapy, which is typically now practicedwith infrared saunas is really great and there’s good studies on pain relief. in fact, infrared radiation, which is a healthyradiation by the way, it’s what they use in incubators. it can go about an inch deep, sometimes justa centimeter. but it is not simply heating, it is actuallydriving some of these healing rays into your so if you’ve got sore joints, etc, it’s agreat thing to do and helps you detoxify some of the excess sodium and some of the excesscompounds.
when you do infrared therapy, particularlyif heat is involved, you’re losing heavy metals, you’re excreting some of those things, whichis really, really great. i use an infrared sauna. in florida, i have a really nice cabinet. one here, i’ve just got a little sort of portableone that my four-year-old calls daddy’s car seat. it sort of looks like a three-dimensionalpostage stamp. there are some great and affordable infraredsaunas. there’s also infrared mats that you can layon or sleep on.
so look into infrared therapy, you’ll be gladyou did. and hydrotherapy is pretty similar. this is really affordable. back in the old day, and this might soundcruel, people would go to these clinics in germany, these spa clinics, and people thatwere in wheelchairs who were really sick, one of the treatments was to dump a big bucketof ice in water on their head, like on their what it does, similar to chili pepper, isit sort of shocks your body into making a lot of anti-inflammatory compounds. so some of those people who are polar bearsthat go swimming in freezing water in the
winter. but hydrotherapy is using water to heal. there’s things such as the kneipp water bath,which is really cold. germany is the pioneer in my mind of a lotof these hydrotherapies. simple thing you can do at home, hot/coldshower. turn your shower to as warm a stream as youcan handle and try to get it to be on the area of pain. but even if you do it for your whole bodyfor one minute, as warm as you can handle, then turn it as cold as you can handle, whichis just all the way because cold isn’t going
to hurt anybody. it’s amazing, when you do that for a cycleof six, so hot, cold, repeat six times, the hot feels cold, the cold feels hot. on my first skiing trip, i was in a hot tubin vail and then i would jump in the snow with just my swim trunks on to make a snowangel, then i jump back in the hot tub, hot felt cold, cold felt hot, but you are invigorated. so hydrotherapy can be done in your shower. it is really, really great to release someof the stored up stress, it’s great to release muscles, and it’s so affordable, anyone cando it, it’s good for the immune system, too.
dr. axe: yeah, awesome. jordan: and last but not least, cryotherapy. this is similar but it’s taking it all theway. there are places now that facilitate cryotherapy,which is really you’re freezing yourself. so if you look up cryotherapy online, you’llsee celebrities are doing it to feel better but also to look younger. you want to go to a place that has reallygood ratings. but this is essentially causing your bodyto adapt to the cold and create lots of compounds that it normally wouldn’t, in a safe, controlledenvironment.
we mentioned also, there are things that weleft out. systemic or proteolytic enzymes, getting yourvitamin d levels right, getting sunshine is great for pain, walking on the beach or walkingbarefooted, swimming. there are so many amazing ways to releaseand reduce chronic pain. but if you take a look at this board, folks,if you’re suffering from migraines, back pain, knee pain, a lot of folks who even playedsports on the high school level, have old injuries, these 14 secrets to relieve andreduce chronic pain can not only help you get out of pain but can help avoid those horribleside effects that prescription pain killers are causing and they are rampant.
the users of nsaids, tens of millions, theusers of opioid-controlled substances, narcotics, massive. there’s addiction, there’s bleeding, there’sa reduction in motility. all of that can be avoided and you can removethe pain by practicing these 14 secrets plus, plus, plus. this is great information. dr. axe: yeah, absolutely. this is something where many of you guys wantto start applying this now. and some of you, maybe you don’t have chronicpain now, but you know somebody who needs
to hear this information or you never knowin the future, everybody at some point starts having chronic pain here, there, and somewhere. so you can lock up this information and useit when needed. as we’ve talked about every single episode,there are so many people that need to hear this. so we just want to say thank you to all ofyou that have clicked that share button here today and helped spread the message. there are millions suffering. we know that using food and herbs and supplementsand these natural treatments as real ancient
medicine can help transform the health ofthe world. and remember, every monday through fridayat 10:30 a.m. central standard time, we are coming to youlive. so again, stay tuned or tune in this monday,we’ll be back at 10:30 a.m. we hope you guys have a great week. remember, food is medicine. this has been jordan rubin and myself, dr.josh axe. have a good weekend. we’ll see you on monday.